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I opted to kind of work together and 

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make us stronger together rather than 

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um try and pit each one against each 

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other . We weren't competing against 

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each other , we're all on the same team 

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for a time . I was one of the few women 

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um , flying airplanes and so I , 

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rather than trying to exclude the women , 

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which some ladies did in flying units 

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at the time , um , there's a certain 

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rite of passage that you had to go 

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through , but um , I opted to kind of 

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work together and make us stronger 

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together rather than um try and pit 

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each one against each other . We 

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weren't competing against each other , 

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you know , we were all on the same team 

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and regardless of gender or race , any 

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of those things were all in the same 

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thing and , and we just become stronger 

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when we help each other out , I really 

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feel obligated and it is an obligation 

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to , to pay afford whether um whatever 

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capacity , if I can mentor you in your 

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professional development , if I can 

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mentor you in your personal life if I 

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can , if I can just be a listening ear 

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when you need to vent , I've I've often 

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done that and I get satisfaction out of 

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it too , knowing that people appreciate 

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the time that it takes or the input 

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that you have or just knowing that 

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somebody might care . There's a lot 

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that I gain as well . 

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Yeah ,